The reason the original ballot wasnt used is just that it wasnt used so we were left having to pick from those we already knew and who were working hard for our community i seriously dont see what all the fuss is about ..... The original idea of getting the members to vote was almost ignored by our members all votes are plain to see in said thread if you bother to read them clearly certain members haven't simple as that there is nothing underhand or secretly happening this is getting rapidly blown out of all preportions for no apparent reasons basically what happned for those who dont know was thus....
Stew was originally offered this posistion as he was at the time the longest standing member we had next to myself and Chas as Chas was already acting as Social Secretary it want fair to add more to his workload as he has a full-time job also, so i then decided to put up a "vote" thread which was on the whole largely ignored by most so i had to think again it really is that simple, as when Stew decided to sell his T4, and essentially spend most of his time in France it quickly became apparent that we needed to look again a simple look at the post counts will answer any queries now as our opening statement will verify this community was set up as a fair community this like every other matter has been dealt witrh as fairly as possible in the circumstances if members are happy to sit there and post occasionally but take no material part in the running of the group so be it all this means is decissions have to be made without them.....
It might be worth pointing out here again to those who claim they didnt see a voting thread if you use the "new messages" tag above you couldnt possibly miss it as all new messages appear there when posted also it was mentione din a few of our newsletters at the time which are posted on the front page and stored in our archive afterwards if members choose not to read threads or newsletters there is little we as admins can do to make them, every thing that is done here is with as many members interests at heart as many as can be bothered to take part that is we would stagnate if we were to wait on every members opinion..
Rob worry not there was nothing underhand about my offer to you it was made simply for the reasons stated Chas, You and I are the ones going to all the meets, promoting this group everywhere we go, and relentlessly daily posting on our boards without which we wouldnt exist, these are the people we have to ensure maintain this level of participation......
If there is any sensible reasons why Rob should not be our Secretary please do let us know i will be more than willing to look at these however so far there seems to be a storm blowing over nothing here...
Nit-picking helps no one as i say if you want to be part of the running of this community several attempts have been made previously to get members more involved all of which have come to nothing if however we have missed some how anyones communications in this regard feel free to send them to us again at the usual address t4club@live.co.uk
Strange Dougie, I thought that one of the positions in the original ballot was for secretary. Now you're saying that Robs election was nothing to do with the original ballot??? So I can only conclude that there was no intention to honour the results of the ballot. So why bother in the first place?? Doesn't appear to be very democratic Dougie !! 
