If anyone wishes to take a look at and set up a Cafepress page for us, with this logo on mugs T-Shirts Hoodies etc then i would happily work with them to set that up, which would essentially allow us our very own mechandising suite i simply and honestly do not understand it, so am unable to set it up correctly i did try with our last logos to no avail...

So if any member is able has the knowledge to set up one of these online mechandising set ups do let me know please...

The stickers i think could cause us copyright issues, i asked Spreadshirt for an account uploaded them had them on a T-shirt a mug and as a sticker but they wouldn't accept them confirming it as below ??? so not quite sure what direction to now take as if this is the attitude of such companies basically the only way we will get them done would eb by a backstreet outfit and they will want to do 1000's at a time which leaves us back at square one.....anyone got any suggestions !!!

I still think value for money wise VIsta-print has all the answers guys !!

Has anyone got one of these made up as yet and if so where??? how much etc etc ...

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Im sure vw wouldnt say no otherwise they would have to take on every club in europe

Dont forget I have a T shirt printing shop 15 mins from me if needed

http://vwtrademarks.com/vw.aspx?file=vwpolicy.htm

& the home page http://vwtrademarks.com/vw.aspx?file=vwlicense.htm

There may be a way of getting a license to use the logo according to this so if we can find something simmillar for europe or the uk we be getting somewhere

I honestly think that its a lot of trouble over nothing but hey ho if we have to we have to if for no other reason to keep on the right side of the law, on of the bif contnetions is ANY similar one marque owners or enthusiasts club anywhere in the word be it for bikes, baby buggies or vehciles would find it pretty god damn hard to come up with something someone online has not already done and thus be different i think our current logos are absolutely ideal i wonder if the closeness to the VW badge in essence is not really a closeness at all and one which has only been spawned by a very very careful company i.e Spreadshirt who if they allowed us to print of designs of this nature would be worried they might get a law suet from VW themselves i am happy to go with it use it if VW want me they know where i am, i mean lets be honest here guys we are no threat to VW we make no finance from out venture we are a small VW owners club what can they possibly see wrong with using an adapted VW badge i reckon we will never hear from them ever ever ever, i mean if thye are unable to supply history, build images and such like on the T4 as requested copies of old brochures and such like what hope is there !!!!!

There is a case in the us where a garage used the badge & advertised servising & was told to cease using the brand name as he was making profit from it & luring customers under a false pretence, but remember the us is more harsh on these issues than Europe & Uk.

At vagfest today there were all sorts of Vw badges to buy & in use by clubs

I dont think there will be a problem it was just the choice of printer as mentioned I have a local place that can do all sorts just say the word & Ill go down there.

Prices
one off logo set up £25
T-shirts £8.75 +Vat then add p+p to send to any member wishing one - no minimum run for these so can do em as required even just 1
Keyrings minimum 25 @ .35p each
Mugs minimum 36 @ £108 + vat

Now they can also do a transfer print T-shirt which basically those iron on prints & will only last a short while after wash's & will start to look orible this is £15 for a trial one.

But looking at there chart & feeling the material the Flex is way much more superior to the print & will last longer.

She did offer an alternative to get thes sparkly bits done & that would be to go to a screen printer & have a screen made up for each logo & then normally ther is a minimum run for these & we need to hope the printer keeps the screens for further prints, she did give me number of a good printer for this but I thought it best to report back first for your opinions.

So do we keep the sparkly bits & keep looking or loose em ?

Ps..... Thanks Rob for now good prices generaly as well that being the case Chas [hellllloooooo] is Azz any good on da net ??? as in with Vistaprint, Spreadshirt or a similar company where all could be set up as is to supply one at a time to each wishing as they wish ie our own virtual shop its simply i dont understand how they work each supply a mechandising suite that can be intregrated into our site as a part of it which if required could be a % cheaper as we are not looking for profit as most would in this situation...

Rob, I'd be happy to share the costs of the set up to get it off the ground and if there's anything else you want me to do just shout.

Look Rob & Chas i dont want ANYONE forking out for Tshirts etc pre them being ordered hence i had intended letting on of the companies that are proffesionals at it take all this from us even it it did cost a slight bit more.......who knows how long it would be till 25 were sold at this rate quite a while i would say.......i hear what your saying and appriciate the thought but i simply CANNOT allow you to do it guys there has simply got to be another way......my buddy is away abroad on business and unobtainable right now otherwise i would ask but does anyone have any web type people who could help us out with the set up of one of the already set up mechandising suites that i tried before as they truly are the way forward here with one set up to make Tshirts, sweat shirts, mugs and keyrings etc they will even do our stickers and calling cards all in one go one at a time for each seperate customer it simply has to be the way forward here ........ not only will it save you wonderful guys forking out it will mean we have our very own mechandising suite which we can add items like umberellas, bags, womens tshirts,kids teddybears the lot to as and when..

Doing it all ourselves will be a headache for whomever is involved as things need to be paid for first sent out then sent out to the member etc etc it really is a nightmare of major preportions again whilst i thank all offers here it simply is not feasible....we have to find another way i dont use my posistion often but i have to pull rank here and say firmly NO and vetto this one sorry whats next are you going to pay my lekky bill to cover the 8 hrs a day my computer is on ??? come on guys this was supposed to be a NON Profit non cost [for everyone] community and so it will remain whilst im in charge....

I used to print onto magnetic paper quite often Jim to make signes for doors on my vans when i worked for a living [god that mag paper must be old ] any way the point of telling you all this was if it is good enough for couriers and such like bombing up an ddown the country [most is rated at about 70mph] before it would come flying off.....and thats a whole sheet so a small circle off it i am sure would be fine..

Worth a try anyway .....

If it dont work printing directly onto it i did it at one point via a slightly large that required sized bit and a laminated piece stuck onto which worked a traet also gave it far more depth...

Keep up the good work Jim me lad hope like the rest your feeling better now, having had a rather rough winter over all i know how you feel but look on the bright side summers nearly here and Malvern is coming soon and im going to be there...